{"id":8824,"date":"2026-04-14T17:36:04","date_gmt":"2026-04-14T16:36:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/?page_id=8824"},"modified":"2026-04-15T11:01:48","modified_gmt":"2026-04-15T10:01:48","slug":"abraham-family-research-letters-1898-j-owen","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/abraham-family-research-letters-1898-j-owen\/","title":{"rendered":"Abraham Family Research Letters (1898)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Two letters, written in September and October 1898 by J. Owen to Mrs E. C. Abraham, document a careful search for the marriage of John Abraham and related family links in the Manchester area. Their importance lies not only in the genealogical enquiry itself, but in the evidence they preserve about the records consulted, including missing pages, torn leaves, erased entries, and neglected archival bundles. They therefore stand as valuable research documents in their own right, showing both the methods and the limitations of family history investigation at the end of the nineteenth century.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"309\">Taken together, the two 1898 letters are working research reports from <strong data-start=\"71\" data-end=\"82\">J. Owen<\/strong> to <strong data-start=\"86\" data-end=\"107\">Mrs E. C. Abraham<\/strong> about one specific genealogical problem: <strong data-start=\"149\" data-end=\"189\">finding the marriage of John Abraham<\/strong>, and more broadly reconstructing the Abraham family\u2019s mid-17th-century origins in the Manchester\u2013Stockport\u2013Bowdon area.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1vs00ol\" data-start=\"311\" data-end=\"334\">Overall significance<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"593\">These are not casual family letters. They are research letters from someone actively searching parish and related records on Mrs Abraham\u2019s behalf. Owen is reporting where he has looked, what he has and has not found, and why the search is proving difficult.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"595\" data-end=\"638\">The letters are valuable for three reasons:<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"640\" data-end=\"710\">First, they show the <strong data-start=\"661\" data-end=\"687\">exact lines of enquiry<\/strong> being pursued in 1898.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"712\" data-end=\"891\">Second, they preserve evidence about the <strong data-start=\"753\" data-end=\"788\">state of the records themselves<\/strong> \u2014 missing leaves, torn pages, erased entries, and registers that had disappeared and later resurfaced.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"893\" data-end=\"1141\">Third, they show Owen\u2019s <strong data-start=\"917\" data-end=\"938\">developing theory<\/strong>: that John Abraham\u2019s marriage may not be in the obvious outlying parish registers, but instead may have taken place in <strong data-start=\"1058\" data-end=\"1072\">Manchester<\/strong>, where record loss has created a gap exactly in the relevant period.<\/p>\n<h1 data-section-id=\"14be7gc\" data-start=\"1148\" data-end=\"1177\">Letter 1: 19 September 1898<\/h1>\n<p data-start=\"1179\" data-end=\"1266\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8831 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1532\" height=\"1237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.1.jpg 1532w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.1-300x242.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.1-1024x827.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.1-768x620.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.1-570x460.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1532px) 100vw, 1532px\" \/>This first letter is exploratory and wide-ranging. Owen is still testing possibilities.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"2g5p7x\" data-start=\"1268\" data-end=\"1290\">1. Stockport search<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"1292\" data-end=\"1397\">He says he went to <strong data-start=\"1311\" data-end=\"1324\">Stockport<\/strong> and examined the register, with the clerk looking from <strong data-start=\"1380\" data-end=\"1396\">1654 to 1656<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1399\" data-end=\"1613\">That date range is important. It suggests he believed John Abraham\u2019s marriage likely fell somewhere close to those years. He and the clerk went through a \u201clong list of the parliamentary weddings\u201d but found nothing.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1615\" data-end=\"1815\">This indicates they were not just checking ordinary parish marriages. They were also considering marriages performed under the <strong data-start=\"1742\" data-end=\"1781\">Commonwealth \/ Parliamentary system<\/strong>, which makes sense for the 1650s.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"1817\" data-end=\"1828\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"1829\" data-end=\"1959\">Owen is showing that he has already searched one of the most likely record groups for the target period and found no John Abraham.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"hnkuo\" data-start=\"1966\" data-end=\"2012\">2. Manchester extracts already held by Owen<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"2014\" data-end=\"2295\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8832 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1414\" height=\"2188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3.jpg 1414w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3-194x300.jpg 194w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3-662x1024.jpg 662w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3-768x1188.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3-993x1536.jpg 993w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3-1324x2048.jpg 1324w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.3-570x882.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1414px) 100vw, 1414px\" \/>He says he examined his own extracts from <strong data-start=\"2056\" data-end=\"2087\">Manchester register records<\/strong>, but found no John Abraham. However, he adds a qualification: when he originally made those extracts, he <strong data-start=\"2193\" data-end=\"2213\">did not yet know<\/strong> about Mrs Abraham\u2019s ancestor John Abraham, so he might have overlooked something.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"2297\" data-end=\"2308\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"2309\" data-end=\"2364\">This is an honest and important admission. It tells us:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"2366\" data-end=\"2595\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1ufh7db\" data-start=\"2366\" data-end=\"2451\">Owen had previously copied or abstracted Manchester entries for some other purpose.<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"v93ut\" data-start=\"2452\" data-end=\"2529\">Those notes were not created with the Abraham problem specifically in mind.<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"tk82g2\" data-start=\"2530\" data-end=\"2595\">Therefore, his earlier notes are useful but <strong data-start=\"2576\" data-end=\"2594\">not conclusive<\/strong>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"2597\" data-end=\"2672\">This is the first sign that Manchester may still be central to the problem.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1urql90\" data-start=\"2679\" data-end=\"2719\">3. Joseph J. Green of Tunbridge Wells<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"2721\" data-end=\"2839\">Owen reminds Mrs Abraham of a note from <strong data-start=\"2761\" data-end=\"2780\">Joseph J. Green<\/strong>, who had sent him a list of his forefathers without dates.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2841\" data-end=\"3016\">That tells us there is probably some attempt to connect the Abraham line with a <strong data-start=\"2921\" data-end=\"2930\">Green<\/strong> line, or at least to test whether Mrs Abraham\u2019s ancestry intersects with that family.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3018\" data-end=\"3110\">Owen then says that in looking over extracts from <strong data-start=\"3068\" data-end=\"3090\">Ashton upon Mersey<\/strong>, he found a burial:<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3112\" data-end=\"3204\"><strong data-start=\"3112\" data-end=\"3204\">1772 May 31 \u2013 Elizabeth Annan, widow, daughter to Thomas Green late of Barking in Essex.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"3206\" data-end=\"3217\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"3218\" data-end=\"3430\">This is a side-line discovery, but Owen clearly thought it might matter. He is trying to identify whether the <strong data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3353\">Green family in Essex<\/strong> might connect to the same wider family network Mrs Abraham is investigating.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3432\" data-end=\"3587\">It does not appear to solve the Abraham problem directly, but it shows how genealogical reconstruction was being built by linking scattered parish notices.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"kgs7yc\" data-start=\"3594\" data-end=\"3669\">4. Manchester register notes: Owen \/ Owyne \/ Owen marriages and baptisms<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"3671\" data-end=\"3776\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8833 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2116\" height=\"1354\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4.jpg 2116w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4-300x192.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4-1024x655.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4-768x491.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4-1536x983.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4-2048x1310.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.4-570x365.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2116px) 100vw, 2116px\" \/>He then copies out a number of <strong data-start=\"3702\" data-end=\"3725\">Manchester register<\/strong> entries involving <strong data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"3760\">Owen \/ Owyne<\/strong>. These include:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"3778\" data-end=\"4086\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1o4cajm\" data-start=\"3778\" data-end=\"3816\">1599 Elizabeth Owen &amp; Arthur Gregory<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"mk8jli\" data-start=\"3817\" data-end=\"3860\">1661 Thomas Owyne &amp; Elizabeth Shelmerdyne<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"kizcz4\" data-start=\"3861\" data-end=\"3893\">1640 Rachel Owen &amp; Thomas Wood<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"yr5kkw\" data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3922\">Samuel Owen &amp; Ales Travers<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1wbvb08\" data-start=\"3923\" data-end=\"3961\">1651 Lawrence Owen &amp; Esther Trafford<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"padm9c\" data-start=\"3962\" data-end=\"3995\">1654 Peter Owen &amp; Susan Burgess<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1agcl72\" data-start=\"3996\" data-end=\"4042\">1617 Rachel daughter of Thomas Owen baptised<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"e0d250\" data-start=\"4043\" data-end=\"4086\">1575 Thomas son of William Owyne baptised<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"4088\" data-end=\"4138\">He also notes a burial of <strong data-start=\"4114\" data-end=\"4129\">Thomas Wood<\/strong> in 1647.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"4140\" data-end=\"4151\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4367\">This part is especially important. Owen is building, or perhaps testing, an <strong data-start=\"4228\" data-end=\"4258\">Owen family reconstruction<\/strong>, probably because he believes the Owen line intersects with the Abraham problem through marriage or kinship.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4369\" data-end=\"4768\">The most notable entry is the <strong data-start=\"4399\" data-end=\"4447\">1640 marriage of Rachel Owen and Thomas Wood<\/strong>, followed by the burial of Thomas Wood in 1647. That sequence likely matters because in the second letter he refers to <strong data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4612\">Rachel Owen\u2019s first husband dying in 1647<\/strong>. He is clearly tracking Rachel Owen as a woman who may have married again, and whose later marriage may connect into the family Mrs Abraham is researching.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"4770\" data-end=\"4838\">So this is not random copying. He is assembling an evidential chain.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1epw892\" data-start=\"4845\" data-end=\"4886\">5. Missing leaf in Manchester register<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"4888\" data-end=\"4898\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8834 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1387\" height=\"2135\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5.jpg 1387w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5-195x300.jpg 195w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5-665x1024.jpg 665w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5-768x1182.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5-998x1536.jpg 998w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5-1330x2048.jpg 1330w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.5-570x877.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1387px) 100vw, 1387px\" \/>Owen says:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"4900\" data-end=\"5003\">\n<p data-start=\"4902\" data-end=\"5003\">There was a leaf torn out of the Manchester Register leaving a blank between June 18 &amp; August 9 1655.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"5005\" data-end=\"5072\">This is one of the most significant statements in the first letter.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"5074\" data-end=\"5085\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"5086\" data-end=\"5194\">If John Abraham\u2019s marriage fell in that period, the record may once have existed but is now physically lost.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"5196\" data-end=\"5270\">This is not speculation. Owen is describing actual damage to the register.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"5272\" data-end=\"5439\">For your purposes, this means the <strong data-start=\"5306\" data-end=\"5369\">absence of a marriage entry is not strong negative evidence<\/strong>. It may simply be unrecordable now because the relevant page is gone.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1w09ec9\" data-start=\"5446\" data-end=\"5505\">6. High Greave \/ Higho Greave and the physical landscape<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"5507\" data-end=\"5556\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8835 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1412\" height=\"2181\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6.jpg 1412w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6-194x300.jpg 194w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6-663x1024.jpg 663w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6-768x1186.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6-994x1536.jpg 994w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6-1326x2048.jpg 1326w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-1-letter-1898.6-570x880.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1412px) 100vw, 1412px\" \/>Owen then turns to <strong data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5541\">High Greave<\/strong>. He discusses:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"5558\" data-end=\"5903\">\n<li data-section-id=\"oob9ro\" data-start=\"5558\" data-end=\"5594\">the brick bonding of the old house<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"15jq9lr\" data-start=\"5595\" data-end=\"5654\">comparison with another old house near Charlton cum Hardy<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"17z32fw\" data-start=\"5655\" data-end=\"5736\">his impression that the higher house showed nothing earlier than about <strong data-start=\"5728\" data-end=\"5736\">1730<\/strong><\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1196cs5\" data-start=\"5737\" data-end=\"5833\">a will of <strong data-start=\"5749\" data-end=\"5765\">John Abraham<\/strong> mentioning \u201chis tenement called the lower house at the High Greave\u201d<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"164j4f5\" data-start=\"5834\" data-end=\"5903\">the implication that the \u201chigher house\u201d already existed in <strong data-start=\"5895\" data-end=\"5903\">1661<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"5905\" data-end=\"5916\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"5917\" data-end=\"6035\">This is a different kind of evidence: not parish-register evidence, but <strong data-start=\"5989\" data-end=\"6034\">topographical and architectural reasoning<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6037\" data-end=\"6351\">Owen is trying to understand the Abraham property described in the will. He seems to conclude that although the visible building fabric was not earlier than about 1730, the terminology in John Abraham\u2019s will implies that there were already two related properties, a <strong data-start=\"6303\" data-end=\"6318\">lower house<\/strong> and a <strong data-start=\"6325\" data-end=\"6341\">higher house<\/strong>, by 1661.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6353\" data-end=\"6468\">That means the Abraham family\u2019s connection to High Greave may be older than the surviving building fabric suggests.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6470\" data-end=\"6573\">This is careful historical method for the time: using building evidence and wording in a will together.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"a2av9j\" data-start=\"6580\" data-end=\"6622\">7. Personal remarks and physical effort<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"6624\" data-end=\"6636\">He mentions:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"6638\" data-end=\"6822\">\n<li data-section-id=\"wro8g2\" data-start=\"6638\" data-end=\"6662\">recovering from a fall<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"c33eh4\" data-start=\"6663\" data-end=\"6697\">walking around the neighbourhood<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"zg4k2r\" data-start=\"6698\" data-end=\"6739\">feeling terribly tired the next morning<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"15w9pg1\" data-start=\"6740\" data-end=\"6822\">remembering earlier years when he walked 36 and 40 miles to inspect old churches<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"6824\" data-end=\"6835\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"6836\" data-end=\"7060\">This gives character to the letter, but it also shows how research was physically done: travel, inspection, direct examination, and note-taking. It also underscores that Owen was making a real effort on Mrs Abraham\u2019s behalf.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1p3ozvh\" data-start=\"7067\" data-end=\"7096\">8. Hexton Register erasure<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"7098\" data-end=\"7230\">He says that in the <strong data-start=\"7118\" data-end=\"7137\">Hexton Register<\/strong>, after an entry for <strong data-start=\"7158\" data-end=\"7169\">26 1651<\/strong>, there is an erasure. He cannot tell what it originally was.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"7232\" data-end=\"7243\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"7244\" data-end=\"7416\">This again reinforces the same theme: the record base is incomplete not only because entries are absent, but because some have been <strong data-start=\"7376\" data-end=\"7415\">deliberately or accidentally erased<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"7418\" data-end=\"7525\">That matters because it weakens any argument based on \u201cif the marriage were there, we would have found it.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1ysyc4b\" data-start=\"7532\" data-end=\"7566\">9. Final conclusion of letter 1<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"7568\" data-end=\"7586\">He ends by saying:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"7588\" data-end=\"7724\">\n<p data-start=\"7590\" data-end=\"7724\">There is no saying where the Marriage of John Abraham may be found there is Eccles, Stratford &amp; Bowdon at the latter an index is kept.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"7726\" data-end=\"7737\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"7738\" data-end=\"7812\">At this stage, he is still keeping several parishes open as possibilities:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"7813\" data-end=\"7842\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1yv18s7\" data-start=\"7813\" data-end=\"7821\">Eccles<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"p591qr\" data-start=\"7822\" data-end=\"7833\">Stretford<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1vhbi3b\" data-start=\"7834\" data-end=\"7842\">Bowdon<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"7844\" data-end=\"7945\">He has not yet settled on Manchester as the likeliest location, though he is beginning to suspect it.<\/p>\n<h1 data-section-id=\"1iq3rto\" data-start=\"7952\" data-end=\"7979\">Letter 2: 24 October 1898<\/h1>\n<p data-start=\"7981\" data-end=\"8104\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8829 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1523\" height=\"1148\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.1.jpg 1523w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.1-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.1-1024x772.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.1-768x579.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.1-570x430.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1523px) 100vw, 1523px\" \/>This second letter is more focused and more decisive. It follows on from the earlier enquiries and sharpens the conclusion.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"7xuo5i\" data-start=\"8106\" data-end=\"8135\">1. Bowdon search completed<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"8137\" data-end=\"8251\">Owen says that on Saturday he went to <strong data-start=\"8175\" data-end=\"8185\">Bowdon<\/strong> and saw the registers, but found <strong data-start=\"8219\" data-end=\"8250\">no marriage of John Abraham<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"8253\" data-end=\"8264\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"8265\" data-end=\"8383\">One of the alternative parishes named in the first letter has now been eliminated, at least on the surviving evidence.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"om0x0s\" data-start=\"8390\" data-end=\"8455\">2. Stronger suspicion that the marriage occurred in Manchester<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"8457\" data-end=\"8477\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8836 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1432\" height=\"2197\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3.jpg 1432w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3-196x300.jpg 196w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3-667x1024.jpg 667w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3-768x1178.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3-1001x1536.jpg 1001w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3-1335x2048.jpg 1335w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.3-570x875.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1432px) 100vw, 1432px\" \/>He now says plainly:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"8479\" data-end=\"8539\">\n<p data-start=\"8481\" data-end=\"8539\">I begin to think that it must have occurred in Manchester.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"8541\" data-end=\"8600\">This is the most important conclusion in the second letter.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"ynlq0v\" data-start=\"8602\" data-end=\"8610\">Why?<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"8611\" data-end=\"8716\">Because he links that conclusion not simply to intuition, but to the condition of the Manchester records.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"14htkje\" data-start=\"8723\" data-end=\"8769\">3. History of the missing Manchester volume<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"8771\" data-end=\"8981\">He explains that the relevant Manchester volume had been <strong data-start=\"8828\" data-end=\"8854\">missing for some years<\/strong>, then eventually turned up in a <strong data-start=\"8887\" data-end=\"8906\">lawyer\u2019s office<\/strong> and was restored. But when it came back, <strong data-start=\"8948\" data-end=\"8980\">two leaves had been torn out<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8983\" data-end=\"9010\">He then specifies the gaps:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"9012\" data-end=\"9152\">\n<li data-section-id=\"5kwi57\" data-start=\"9012\" data-end=\"9083\"><strong data-start=\"9014\" data-end=\"9026\">Baptisms<\/strong>: blank between <strong data-start=\"9042\" data-end=\"9061\">29 January 1653<\/strong> and <strong data-start=\"9066\" data-end=\"9083\">6 August 1654<\/strong><\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"mhwy7x\" data-start=\"9084\" data-end=\"9152\"><strong data-start=\"9086\" data-end=\"9098\">Weddings<\/strong>: blank between <strong data-start=\"9114\" data-end=\"9130\">18 June 1655<\/strong> and <strong data-start=\"9135\" data-end=\"9152\">9 August 1655<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"9154\" data-end=\"9222\">He also notes that there is <strong data-start=\"9182\" data-end=\"9221\">no entry of a marriage in July 1653<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"9224\" data-end=\"9235\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"9236\" data-end=\"9341\">This is crucial. Owen is giving a near-forensic description of the surviving and missing record sequence.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"9343\" data-end=\"9541\">For the Abraham search, the marriage gap in <strong data-start=\"9387\" data-end=\"9407\">June\u2013August 1655<\/strong> is especially significant. If John Abraham married during that interval, the record could simply have been on one of the lost leaves.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"9543\" data-end=\"9719\">His note about July 1653 is also interesting. It may mean he had been considering whether the marriage could have been earlier than 1655, but he found no evidence there either.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1mkl7ib\" data-start=\"9726\" data-end=\"9764\">4. Chester search for missing links<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"9766\" data-end=\"9980\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-8837\" src=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1441\" height=\"2179\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4.jpg 1441w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4-677x1024.jpg 677w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4-768x1161.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4-1016x1536.jpg 1016w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4-1354x2048.jpg 1354w, https:\/\/ianwaugh.com\/archive\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Abraham-2-letter-1898.4-570x862.jpg 570w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1441px) 100vw, 1441px\" \/>He says he went to <strong data-start=\"9785\" data-end=\"9796\">Chester<\/strong> to discover the missing links. He was shown <strong data-start=\"9841\" data-end=\"9875\">two large bundles of parchment<\/strong>, thickly covered with dust, which he examined one by one, but he found nothing near the dates he wanted.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"9982\" data-end=\"10134\">He adds that those in charge \u201cdid not seem to care for them\u201d and that as far as he can learn, these documents \u201ccontinue to disappear from time to time.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"10136\" data-end=\"10147\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"10148\" data-end=\"10220\">This is a striking comment on archival neglect in the late 19th century.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"10222\" data-end=\"10233\">It implies:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"10234\" data-end=\"10461\">\n<li data-section-id=\"afnmco\" data-start=\"10234\" data-end=\"10332\">Owen suspected that supplementary or related records in Chester might preserve missing material.<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1sd6ajs\" data-start=\"10333\" data-end=\"10378\">He carried out an exhaustive manual search.<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1q9n4sr\" data-start=\"10379\" data-end=\"10461\">He was frustrated not only by the absence of results, but by poor custodianship.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"10463\" data-end=\"10646\">Historically, this is important evidence about the state of record keeping. Genealogically, it means he tried an alternative repository and still did not recover the missing marriage.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1jkuqrw\" data-start=\"10653\" data-end=\"10694\">5. Witnesses to parliamentary weddings<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"10696\" data-end=\"10816\">He says he looked among the <strong data-start=\"10724\" data-end=\"10746\">names of witnesses<\/strong> to the Parliamentary weddings for John Abraham, but did not find him.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"10818\" data-end=\"10829\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"10830\" data-end=\"11068\">This is quite a sophisticated move. Even if John Abraham was not one of the marrying parties in an accessible surviving entry, he might have appeared as a <strong data-start=\"10985\" data-end=\"10996\">witness<\/strong> in allied family marriages. Owen checked this and found nothing useful.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"11070\" data-end=\"11139\">That means he was testing not only direct but also indirect evidence.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"64rl3k\" data-start=\"11146\" data-end=\"11205\">6. Dr Heginbotham\u2019s history of Stockport and the Friends<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"11207\" data-end=\"11423\">He refers to <strong data-start=\"11220\" data-end=\"11261\">Dr Heginbotham\u2019s history of Stockport<\/strong>, which gives particulars of the <strong data-start=\"11294\" data-end=\"11305\">Friends<\/strong> there. He says the earliest wedding among the Friends was in <strong data-start=\"11367\" data-end=\"11375\">1655<\/strong>, and mentions <strong data-start=\"11390\" data-end=\"11407\">Jeremiah Owen<\/strong> about <strong data-start=\"11414\" data-end=\"11422\">1668<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"11425\" data-end=\"11436\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"11437\" data-end=\"11543\">This seems to indicate Owen was also considering whether the family had a <strong data-start=\"11511\" data-end=\"11531\">Quaker \/ Friends<\/strong> connection.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"11545\" data-end=\"11695\">That matters because if John Abraham belonged to the Friends, his marriage might not appear in the expected Anglican parish register in the usual way.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"11697\" data-end=\"11836\">However, Owen seems to suggest that the Friends evidence in Stockport begins too late, or at least does not clearly help with John Abraham.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1j6apq6\" data-start=\"11843\" data-end=\"11866\">7. Rachel Owen again<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"11868\" data-end=\"11878\">He writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"11880\" data-end=\"12008\">\n<p data-start=\"11882\" data-end=\"12008\">Rachel Owen\u2019s first husband died in 1647 I think when I go over to Stockport I will look over the weddings between that &amp; 1650<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"12010\" data-end=\"12063\">This directly links back to the first letter\u2019s notes:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"12064\" data-end=\"12138\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1nsiyvp\" data-start=\"12064\" data-end=\"12105\">Rachel Owen married Thomas Wood in 1640<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"ft99cs\" data-start=\"12106\" data-end=\"12138\">Thomas Wood was buried in 1647<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"12140\" data-end=\"12277\">Owen is now clearly considering whether Rachel Owen remarried between <strong data-start=\"12210\" data-end=\"12227\">1647 and 1650<\/strong>, and whether this may matter to the Abraham line.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1netzs1\" data-start=\"12279\" data-end=\"12290\">Meaning<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"12291\" data-end=\"12509\">He is pursuing a hypothesis that one branch of the Owen family may connect to John Abraham through a second marriage or associated kinship. This is still tentative, but it is clearly one of his active working theories.<\/p>\n<h1 data-section-id=\"1hdk4n7\" data-start=\"12516\" data-end=\"12562\">What the two letters show when read together<\/h1>\n<p data-start=\"12564\" data-end=\"12676\">Together, the letters document a live genealogical investigation moving from broad search to focused hypothesis.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1dvwc4c\" data-start=\"12678\" data-end=\"12714\">Main conclusions Owen had reached<\/h2>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"11dt0jb\" data-start=\"12716\" data-end=\"12792\">1. The marriage of John Abraham had not been found in the obvious places<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"12793\" data-end=\"12816\">He searched or checked:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"12817\" data-end=\"12912\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1wc9lch\" data-start=\"12817\" data-end=\"12828\">Stockport<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1vhbi3b\" data-start=\"12829\" data-end=\"12837\">Bowdon<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1nz0c3u\" data-start=\"12838\" data-end=\"12859\">Manchester extracts<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"j9q3fm\" data-start=\"12860\" data-end=\"12885\">Parliamentary marriages<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"lqaayq\" data-start=\"12886\" data-end=\"12912\">Chester-linked materials<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"12914\" data-end=\"12942\">and still had no direct hit.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"1osbweg\" data-start=\"12944\" data-end=\"12994\">2. Manchester had become the leading candidate<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"12995\" data-end=\"13094\">By the second letter, Owen increasingly believed the marriage <strong data-start=\"13057\" data-end=\"13093\">must have occurred in Manchester<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"teern2\" data-start=\"13096\" data-end=\"13153\">3. The missing Manchester register leaves are central<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"13154\" data-end=\"13219\">This is probably the single most important point in both letters.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"13221\" data-end=\"13247\">The missing leaves create:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"13248\" data-end=\"13301\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1whvjx8\" data-start=\"13248\" data-end=\"13276\">a baptism gap in 1653\u20131654<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1coh0yh\" data-start=\"13277\" data-end=\"13301\">a marriage gap in 1655<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"13303\" data-end=\"13421\">That means the failure to find John Abraham\u2019s marriage is entirely compatible with it having once been recorded there.<\/p>\n<h3 data-section-id=\"mad8ay\" data-start=\"13423\" data-end=\"13463\">4. Other lines remained under review<\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"13464\" data-end=\"13488\">Owen was still checking:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"13489\" data-end=\"13622\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1rsftjg\" data-start=\"13489\" data-end=\"13521\">Quaker \/ Friends possibilities<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1dpamuv\" data-start=\"13522\" data-end=\"13553\">related Owen family marriages<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1553fps\" data-start=\"13554\" data-end=\"13585\">High Greave property evidence<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"tdzz0c\" data-start=\"13586\" data-end=\"13622\">possible Essex \/ Green connections<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"13624\" data-end=\"13668\">So the search was not closed, only narrowed.<\/p>\n<h1 data-section-id=\"nn2r22\" data-start=\"13675\" data-end=\"13706\">People and subjects mentioned<\/h1>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1bmodnf\" data-start=\"13708\" data-end=\"13728\">Mrs E. C. Abraham<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"13729\" data-end=\"13849\">The recipient. Almost certainly the family researcher or family representative commissioning or corresponding with Owen.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"15ls9bm\" data-start=\"13851\" data-end=\"13866\">John Abraham<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"13867\" data-end=\"14010\">The key ancestor being researched. The specific object is to locate his marriage and place him properly within the family and property history.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1d6chf6\" data-start=\"14012\" data-end=\"14022\">J. Owen<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"14023\" data-end=\"14163\">The researcher. He is methodical, mobile, honest about uncertainties, and evidently experienced in working with registers and local history.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"5tfjd3\" data-start=\"14165\" data-end=\"14179\">Rachel Owen<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"14180\" data-end=\"14316\">A potentially important woman in the reconstruction. Her first marriage and widowhood may connect to the Abraham line Owen is exploring.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"1q3emt6\" data-start=\"14318\" data-end=\"14332\">Thomas Wood<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"14333\" data-end=\"14388\">Rachel Owen\u2019s first husband, apparently buried in 1647.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"z1gf8x\" data-start=\"14390\" data-end=\"14408\">Joseph J. Green<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"14409\" data-end=\"14526\">A correspondent from Tunbridge Wells whose list of forefathers may connect with the family\u2019s broader kinship network.<\/p>\n<h2 data-section-id=\"16t36ee\" data-start=\"14528\" data-end=\"14550\">John Abraham\u2019s will<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"14551\" data-end=\"14650\">Not quoted in full here, but clearly already known to Owen and central to the High Greave analysis.<\/p>\n<h1 data-section-id=\"gzanve\" data-start=\"14657\" data-end=\"14688\">Archival value of the letters<\/h1>\n<p data-start=\"14690\" data-end=\"14765\">These letters are valuable not only for genealogy but for archival history.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"14767\" data-end=\"14814\">They preserve near-contemporary testimony that:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"14816\" data-end=\"15013\">\n<li data-section-id=\"124x8qh\" data-start=\"14816\" data-end=\"14843\">registers were incomplete<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"2uxu14\" data-start=\"14844\" data-end=\"14870\">leaves had been torn out<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"116gxv0\" data-start=\"14871\" data-end=\"14921\">some volumes had gone missing into private hands<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"zd4kd3\" data-start=\"14922\" data-end=\"14976\">auxiliary parchments were dusty and poorly cared for<\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"njcbal\" data-start=\"14977\" data-end=\"15013\">records could disappear repeatedly<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"15015\" data-end=\"15126\">So even where Owen found nothing, his letters supply an explanation for why the evidence may no longer survive.<\/p>\n<h1 data-section-id=\"kiu9gh\" data-start=\"15133\" data-end=\"15177\">Best historical reading of Owen\u2019s position<\/h1>\n<p data-start=\"15179\" data-end=\"15231\">By October 1898, Owen seems to be saying, in effect:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"15233\" data-end=\"15555\">\n<p data-start=\"15235\" data-end=\"15555\">I have searched the most likely alternative parish and associated records without success. I now suspect the marriage was in Manchester, but the relevant Manchester register is defective because leaves are missing. Therefore the marriage may once have been there, but the surviving books can no longer prove it directly.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"15557\" data-end=\"15607\">That is the central message of the correspondence.<\/p>\n<h1 data-section-id=\"1g0r6md\" data-start=\"15614\" data-end=\"15645\">Practical evidential takeaway<\/h1>\n<p data-start=\"15647\" data-end=\"15743\">If you are using these letters as evidence in a family reconstruction, the safest conclusion is:<\/p>\n<ul data-start=\"15745\" data-end=\"16109\">\n<li data-section-id=\"1jwgvko\" data-start=\"15745\" data-end=\"15796\"><strong data-start=\"15747\" data-end=\"15796\">They do not prove where John Abraham married.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"749yxg\" data-start=\"15797\" data-end=\"15976\"><strong data-start=\"15799\" data-end=\"15976\">They do provide strong contemporary research testimony that the marriage may have been in Manchester and that surviving record loss may be the reason it cannot now be found.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li data-section-id=\"1j6vbxq\" data-start=\"15977\" data-end=\"16109\"><strong data-start=\"15979\" data-end=\"16109\">They also show active consideration of Stockport, Bowdon, Eccles, Stretford, Quaker records, and associated Owen-family links.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"16111\" data-end=\"16263\">So these letters are best treated as <strong data-start=\"16148\" data-end=\"16220\">important negative-search evidence plus contextual archival evidence<\/strong>, rather than proof of the marriage itself.<\/p>\n<h2 data-start=\"16111\" data-end=\"16263\">Transcriptions<\/h2>\n<h3 data-start=\"160\" data-end=\"192\"><strong data-start=\"160\" data-end=\"192\">Letter 1 (full transcription):<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"194\" data-end=\"244\">36 Warwick St. Hulme Manchester<br data-start=\"225\" data-end=\"228\" \/>Sept 19th 1898<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"246\" data-end=\"263\">Dear Mrs Abraham,<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"265\" data-end=\"355\">I have been to Stockport to examine the Register &amp; and the Clerk looked from 1654 to 1656.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"357\" data-end=\"682\">We waded through a long list of the parliamentary weddings with no result. I have examined what I have of extracts from Register records Manchester but find no John Abraham. It would require a special search around. At the time I made the extracts I had no knowledge of your ancestor John Abraham, I might have overlooked it.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"684\" data-end=\"814\">You will remember I had a note from Joseph J Green of Tunbridge Wells, he sent me a list of his forefathers but without any dates.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"816\" data-end=\"977\">In looking over my extracts from Ashton super Mersey I found in the burials 1772 May 31 Elizabeth Annan Widow, daughter to Thomas Green late of Barking in Essex.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"984\" data-end=\"1004\">Manchester Registers<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1006\" data-end=\"1466\">1599 Elizabeth Owen &amp; Arthur Gregory Nov. 29<br data-start=\"1050\" data-end=\"1053\" \/>1661 Thomas Owyne &amp; Elizabeth Shelmerdyne May 2<br data-start=\"1100\" data-end=\"1103\" \/>1640 Rachel Owen &amp; Thomas Wood Hayes per l. Jan. 29 X<br data-start=\"1156\" data-end=\"1159\" \/>Samuel Owen &amp; Ales Travers Oct. 24<br data-start=\"1193\" data-end=\"1196\" \/>1651 Lawrence Owen &amp; Esther Trafford Dec. 15<br data-start=\"1240\" data-end=\"1243\" \/>1654 Peter Owen of Manchester Chapman son of Lawrence Owen of Heaton Norris Yeoman &amp; Susan Burgess of Salford Dau. of William Burgess late of the same deceased Witness John Locke, Ales Locke, Samuel Owen, John Owen July 26.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1468\" data-end=\"1539\">I find in the baptisms 1617 Rachel Dau. of Thomas Owen bap. July 25th<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1541\" data-end=\"1596\">1575 Thomas ye sonne of William Owyne bap. January 25<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1598\" data-end=\"1647\">X I find a burial of a Thomas Wood June 28 1647<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1649\" data-end=\"1749\">There was a leaf torn out of the Manchester Register leaving a blank between June 18 &amp; August 9 1655<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1756\" data-end=\"1824\">1774 March 30 The Reverend John Green L.L.B. Rector of this Church<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1826\" data-end=\"1903\">As the Green family lived in Essex, it is possible there may be a connection.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1905\" data-end=\"2116\">I have been again to Higho Greave and noticed that the bonding of the brickwork of the front of the old house is what is called bond [sketch] while at the back it was one course of headers to four of stretchers.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2118\" data-end=\"2620\">The oldest bonding I have seen is at the Morehenn Hall near Charlton cum Hardy, it is one course of headers &amp; one of stretchers. I went up the hill to look at the higher house but found nothing earlier than what I said before viz 1730. It seems to have been built or rebuilt about that time. I found nothing older even in the outbuildings &amp; in the will of John Abraham he mentions his tenement called the lower house at the High Greave which seems to indicate the existence of the higher house in 1661.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2627\" data-end=\"2782\">Probably it may have been taken down &amp; rebuilt as a residence with stables. I did not notice any shippon, the lower house was amply provided on that score.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2784\" data-end=\"3214\">How have you got through the hot weather, many people have been prostrated but I have been wonderfully well, but I recovered from the shock of the fall. Though it put me in despair at the time I intended to go to High Greave. After the 2nd time I had a walk round to survey the neighbourhood. I felt terribly tired the next morning which put me in mind of the years 1831 &amp; 2 when I used to walk 36 &amp; 40 miles to see an old church.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3216\" data-end=\"3389\">I find in the Hexton Register after an entry 26 1651 an erasure, what it was I don\u2019t know, if any portion of it had been visible I should have copied what could be made out.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3391\" data-end=\"3525\">There is no saying where the marriage of John Abraham may be found there is Eccles, Stratford &amp; Bowdon at the latter an index is kept.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3527\" data-end=\"3548\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Yours truly<br data-start=\"3538\" data-end=\"3541\" \/>J. Owen<\/p>\n<section class=\"text-token-text-primary w-full focus:outline-none [--shadow-height:45px] has-data-writing-block:pointer-events-none has-data-writing-block:-mt-(--shadow-height) has-data-writing-block:pt-(--shadow-height) [&amp;:has([data-writing-block])&gt;*]:pointer-events-auto [content-visibility:auto] supports-[content-visibility:auto]:[contain-intrinsic-size:auto_100lvh] R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]\" dir=\"auto\" data-turn-id=\"5dd58ad2-c202-4e58-821a-ce945107afb0\" data-testid=\"conversation-turn-4\" data-scroll-anchor=\"false\" data-turn=\"assistant\">\n<div class=\"text-base my-auto mx-auto [--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-xs,calc(var(--spacing)*4))] @w-sm\/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-sm,calc(var(--spacing)*6))] @w-lg\/main:[--thread-content-margin:var(--thread-content-margin-lg,calc(var(--spacing)*16))] px-(--thread-content-margin)\">\n<div class=\"[--thread-content-max-width:40rem] @w-lg\/main:[--thread-content-max-width:48rem] mx-auto max-w-(--thread-content-max-width) flex-1 group\/turn-messages focus-visible:outline-hidden relative flex w-full min-w-0 flex-col agent-turn\">\n<div class=\"flex max-w-full flex-col gap-4 grow\">\n<div class=\"min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal outline-none keyboard-focused:focus-ring [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-1\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"dfa4674b-04f4-4aa5-8f7e-927c6cf2c91e\" data-message-model-slug=\"gpt-5-4-thinking\">\n<div class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden\">\n<div class=\"markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full wrap-break-word light markdown-new-styling\">\n<h3 data-start=\"141\" data-end=\"173\"><strong data-start=\"141\" data-end=\"173\">Letter 2 (full transcription):<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p data-start=\"175\" data-end=\"219\">36 Warwick St. Hulme Manchester<br data-start=\"206\" data-end=\"209\" \/>Oct. 24 98<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"221\" data-end=\"238\">Dear Mrs Abraham.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"240\" data-end=\"330\">On saturday I went to Bowdon and saw the Registers, but found no Marriage of John Abraham.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"332\" data-end=\"562\">I begin to think that it must have occurred in Manchester. The Volume of that period was missing for some years, it eventually turned up in a lawyers office and was restored. When it came back I found two leaves had been torn out.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"564\" data-end=\"633\">Baptisms leaf missing a blank between January 29 1653 &amp; August 6 1654<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"635\" data-end=\"698\">Weddings leaving a blank between June 18 1655 to August 9 1655.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"700\" data-end=\"756\">I see that in July 1653 there is no entry of a Marriage.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"1091\">I went to Chester to discover these missing Links. They brought me two large bundles of parchment tied up with strings thickly covered with dust although I examined every one I did not find any near the dates I wanted. They did not seem to care for them. As far as I can learn these documents continue to disappear from time to time.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1093\" data-end=\"1192\">I looked among the names of witnesses to the Parliamentary weddings for John Abraham but not found.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1194\" data-end=\"1361\">In Dr Heginbothams history of Stockport gives some particulars of the friends there, the earliest wedding amongst the friends was in 1655 and Jeremiah Owen about 1668.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1363\" data-end=\"1489\">Rachel Owen\u2019s first husband died in 1647 I think when I go over to Stockport I will look over the weddings between that &amp; 1650<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1491\" data-end=\"1512\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">yours truly<br data-start=\"1502\" data-end=\"1505\" \/>J. Owen<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two letters, written in September and October 1898 by J. Owen to Mrs E. C. 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